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PostSubject: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 12:49 pm

just want to share some pics of a lil Experiment I was trying.. the test coral is a Palau Acro, when I got it, it was only 1.5'' and 1 growing tip, a buddy wanted a frag so I hooked him up with a slice.. after that another branch shot off to the side, I fragged that one for another Friend, that when I noticed things where starting to take off.. Here are some pics that I have been taking the last few months..

5-2-10


5-30-10
Bad pic.. polyps were fully expanded on this one..


6-15-10


7-23-10


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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 1:12 pm

Makes me think of plants when they take off after clipping Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 1:18 pm

HEHE.. that's what inspired me..
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 1:29 pm

I am fairly new with SPS, I have had many before but successfully killed them.... Now for some reason I am having really good luck with my current frags. Is it true that the smaller frags actually grow faster?
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 1:38 pm

pretty frags
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 2:54 pm

skinz78 wrote:
I am fairly new with SPS, I have had many before but successfully killed them.... Now for some reason I am having really good luck with my current frags. Is it true that the smaller frags actually grow faster?

Nope, you just notice the growth more in most cases I believe since you are watching something small grow.

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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 4:47 pm

man does that acro have white polyps or green?? they look different in a couple pics....
i have a huge colony of that thing i have been trying to id.... i thought it was mili lol...
mine has a mettalic green base with pink coralites and bluish purple tips.... all white polpys thou.....
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   7/31/2010, 8:52 pm

this is where I got it from..
http://www.exoticfrags.us/corals.php?&c=122
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/1/2010, 8:34 am

skinz78 wrote:
I am fairly new with SPS, I have had many before but successfully killed them.... Now for some reason I am having really good luck with my current frags. Is it true that the smaller frags actually grow faster?

I actualy think this is the biggest misconception going, in fact super small frags quite often die, the best growing is seen on frags that have encrusted and then are pruned.
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 2:49 pm

Hey Dom! That is a sweet piece - hardly a frag anymore, can you say "mini colony"?
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 4:55 pm

I guess I'm new to the game, but I do not believe that clipping corals promotes new growth, Maybe that is why my tank never grows Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 6:02 pm

Maybe not.. but I was surprised to see all the new growth tips that popped up after the main tip was cut.. Na mean??.. I could be wrong though..
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 6:28 pm

Corals regenerate...that we know. So if you cut off a frag, its gonna regrow. I would rather let the coral use that energy in expanding its surface area rather than using it to heal and recovery. I'm just stating my personal experience and knowledge. There are too many variables to actually KNOW if either way is the case Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 7:44 pm

Gottcha.. your experience and knowledge is far greater then mine that's for sure..
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 8:13 pm

DML08 wrote:
Gottcha.. your experience and knowledge is far greater then mine that's for sure..

Whatever...I don't have any milli madness so I know nothing Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 8:18 pm

You're not missing much Mark.. haha.. nah, when mine turned purple it will be coolies.

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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/2/2010, 8:22 pm

Mark , I have a big Frag for ya if you want it.. I hook up Homies.. Trades are awesome but not necessary..
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/3/2010, 5:27 am

ok that is some nice growth in 2 months man! great colors too
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 3:52 am

Great looking piece Dom.
I have heard of this method before. I've been told by one experienced aquarist that it will stimulate new growth/branching. We recently used a similar method that you described on an Acro's enrusting base which was taking forever to branch out. After the piece got a few growth tips pruned, it started branching all over the base. It was clear to me that the 'pruning' stimulated the new growth.

Without doing side by side comparisons, its hard to know just how fragging will affect a colonies' growth rate and shape etc. Maybe the piece I mentioned above would have branched on it's own...


None the less. I think this is a a cool topic to discuss.
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 4:22 am

skinz78 wrote:
I am fairly new with SPS, I have had many before but successfully killed them.... Now for some reason I am having really good luck with my current frags. Is it true that the smaller frags actually grow faster?

I think smaller frags will acclimate to new surroundings much easier than larger pieces. That way the frag can grow out into the available flow and light. Roc has a good point though- tiny frags (aka boogers) rarely show good growth.

Unless you have a stable tank with great lighting/flow, keeping a larger piece in good health is not always easy. Then again, larger frags have more surface area, so it's a trade off.
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 8:19 am

mpoletti wrote:
Corals regenerate...that we know. So if you cut off a frag, its gonna regrow. I would rather let the coral use that energy in expanding its surface area rather than using it to heal and recovery. I'm just stating my personal experience and knowledge. There are too many variables to actually KNOW if either way is the case Wink

What I have experienced is a large colony that has a branch cut off will use it's energy to grow several new branches in the place of the single branch, this is similar to "topping" that you can do on plants like roses and weed to get a large bush instead of a tall tree.

I guess it's all about what you want in the tank.
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 4:05 pm

Roc wrote:
this is similar to "topping" that you can do on plants like roses and weed to get a large bush instead of a tall tree.


I'm also very familiar with the sort of "topping" that you are speaking of; especially from my college years Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 4:08 pm

DML08 wrote:
just want to share some pics of a lil Experiment I was trying.. the test coral is a Palau Acro, when I got it, it was only 1.5'' and 1 growing tip, a buddy wanted a frag so I hooked him up with a slice.. after that another branch shot off to the side, I fragged that one for another Friend, that when I noticed things where starting to take off.. Here are some pics that I have been taking the last few months..

5-2-10


5-30-10
Bad pic.. polyps were fully expanded on this one..


6-15-10


7-23-10



BTW, what is the cool lime acro with pink coralites?
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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/9/2010, 4:23 pm

Shades of fall maybe?

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PostSubject: Re: Fraging= New growth..   8/19/2010, 4:13 am

great shots! that is some awesome growth!
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